I have a puzzle for you all! But first, a few quick notes regarding recent releases:
- Berryz Koubou’s Dschinghis Khan PV: This is definitely Berryz’s best video to date, and one of the freshest things to come out of H!P in recent memory. I had it on repeat for an obscenely long amount of time while I was working on the puzzle below. You can count on this being in the top 10 on the Countdown next year (speaking of which, I’ll resume this year’s countdown soon…), unless H!P manages to top this in the months to come.
- Buono!’s Café Buono! album: While waiting for my physical copy to arrive, I listened to the tracks recently floating around on the Interwebs. I must say, this is by far the best album I’ve heard in a while, and I actually enjoy every single track. To put this in perspective, almost every one of my favorite albums has a few duds. Out of the entire corpus of non-classical music I’ve ever listened to, which spans a number of diverse genres, there is only one other album for which I honestly enjoyed every single track. That album was M2M’s Shades of Purple (2000). So this is quite an extraordinary achievement for Buono!, and I’m looking forward to the group’s future work.
OK, now on to the puzzle.
One of my hobbies is solving and writing puzzles, particularly the kind featured in the annual MIT Mystery Hunt. These are typically not traditional-type puzzles (crosswords, sudoku, etc.), though many of them borrow the format of traditional puzzles or combine different kinds of traditional puzzles. Generally, the puzzles come with few or no instructions (and those that are present are usually cryptic), and part of the challenge is to figure out how to solve the puzzle before actually solving it. The solution in each case is usually a word or short phrase. The entire Mystery Hunt is generally organized into rounds of puzzles, so the answers to the puzzles in each round combine to produce a meta-puzzle, and so forth.
Recently, I decided to combine my interests in puzzling and H!P and produce an H!P puzzle. The following is the result of an all-nighter soundtracked by nonstop repeats of Dschinghis Khan. I have another puzzle too, but I need to work out a few bugs before I can present it.
Hello! Project no Puzzle desu yo.
Instructions:
- Figure out how to fill in the grid.
- Fill in the grid, one character per square and leaving no blank squares.
- Figure out how to get the final answer.
- Get the final answer, which is the title of a Hello! Project recording.
Notes:
- Knowledge of Japanese is not required to solve this puzzle; however, basic familiarity with katakana and hiragana may be helpful.
- Ignore all blank spaces in titles. Everything else counts, though some of it has already been filled in for you.
- In the case of a discrepancy regarding information about a title, the official Hello! Project discography is correct. (In the case of W, please refer to the official entry for W, which has been deprived of a link from the main discography page for mysterious reasons. Also deprived of a link, for even more mysterious reasons, is Taiyo to Ciscomoon / T&C Bomber.) That said, Wiki.ThePPN may be easier to use and is probably accurate, the last time I checked.
I’ll probably put up hints later to help you out.Hints are at the bottom, and I will add more as time goes on.- Good luck!
Grid:
(Resized slightly to fit on page. Click to see full-size original.)
Titles:
- 2:5[6] 2.5:2[12] 4:8[8] 1:9[7] 1:3[5] 3:8[4]
- 1:3[5] 5:11[8] 1:5[7]
- 4:10[7] 2:8[3] 2.5:2[8] 1:9[2] 2:11[6] 3:10[6]
- 2:5[5] 2:11[8] 1:5[4]
- 3:4[4]
- 1:7[5] 1:4[18] 1:8[7]
- 1:1[11] 1:1[14] 1:4[10] 2:4[19]
- 1:6[7]
- 2:10[6] 7:6[8] 2:3[5]
Hints: (highlight to read, but use at your own discretion; some of these may take away part of the fun of solving the puzzle)
- You can ignore the letters in the grid at first; they’re only useful after the grid is filled in.
- Break the puzzle into three stages: (1) deciphering the titles; (2) filling in the grid; (3) getting the final answer.
- Hints on deciphering the titles:
- Think about what kind of “titles” these are.
- Look at the distribution of numbers on the left side of each colon.
- Why are there so many 1’s? Why only one 7?
- What’s with the 2.5’s?
- Look at the distribution of numbers on the right side of each colon.
- Are they evenly or unevenly distributed? How far up do they go?
- Add up the numbers in parentheses. How is this related to the grid?
- Each “x:y(z)” refers to a single title.
- If you find more than one possible candidate for a title, look at the number in parentheses, and look at the overall ordering of the titles. Only one candidate is correct.
- All titles are in kana + punctuation. No romaji, no kanji.
- If you have to convert stuff to kana, you either have the wrong title or are consulting an incorrect source.
- The titles are given in a specific order. If you’re not sure about the ordering, try looking at a kana table.
- Once you figure out how to decipher a title, it’s probably faster to decipher ones that appear to match what you’re looking at, rather than do everything in sequence.
- (spoiler) It starts and ends with W.
- Hints on filling in the grid:
- Look closely at the smaller grid at the top of the puzzle.
- The color of squares is important.
- All punctuation has already been filled in.
- The order has already been given to you.
- Treat the titles as one long connected string.
- Two corners are marked. This is important.
- It’s probably very difficult to fill in everything in order. Try filling in disconnected parts separately.
- The path cannot cross itself, nor skip between non-adjacent squares.
- When filling in the grid, avoid stranding squares.
- Use logic.
- (spoiler) It starts and ends with W.
- Look closely at the smaller grid at the top of the puzzle.
- Hints on getting the final answer:
- Think about how the titles are arranged in the “Titles” section.
- The letters A, B, C, D, E, F, and G are important at this point. Treat them individually and see what you get.
More hints are below, in the comments section.
The solution is now posted. You can view parts of it without revealing the rest of the puzzle.


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2008-02-18 at 13:11
Chris
Huh? Indian Curry Cucumber Cream?
2008-02-18 at 13:18
Kawaiirrhea
Ah… love that movie. But sorry, that’s not the right answer. ;-p
I can add more hints…
2008-02-19 at 06:46
Kawaiirrhea
from Anonymous, posted to “Mini Moni Manifesto” as the result of a bug (probably):
I can’t solve this coz i’m a dimwit, but you are cool. may the momo be with you.
2008-02-19 at 10:04
Kawaiirrhea
A lot of puzzles look impossible at first glance but make sense after a while. Sometimes a connection just jumps at you out of nowhere. Have you read the hints? I can add more, or even provide a partial solution.
2008-02-19 at 10:14
bot
oops I’m the ‘Anonymous’.
!!Mild semi-hidden spoiler alert!!
I think I sorta know what to do (thanks to my friend the obvious co-ordinate :P), and after reading the clues, I think it’s right, but I can’t find the first co-ordinate at all! plus I’m really too slow to do the whole thing. oh and i noticed they have excised W from the official discography. sigh… it was only a smoke! in conclusion, may the momo be with you. :)
2008-02-19 at 10:17
Kawaiirrhea
(contains a hint)
Ooh…
As for the “first co-ordinate” (if I interpret you correctly), try looking at the smaller grid at the top of the puzzle… If you still have trouble, let me know.
2008-02-19 at 10:21
Kawaiirrhea
(contains a hint)
Hm… I might not be interpreting you correctly. By “first co-ordinate”, do you mean the number to the left of the colon? In which case, disregard my above comment, and think of how the numbers in a time expression such as 12:30 (half past noon) are related.
2008-02-19 at 10:36
Kawaiirrhea
And good point about W no longer being in the official discography.
I’ll add a link to the Up-Front Works discography page for W.Actually, the page for W still exists: http://www.helloproject.com/disco/08/index.html It’s just not linked to from the main discography page.2008-02-19 at 11:19
bot
hmmm this is hard to keep spoiler-free.
!!!Mild Spoilers!!!
I meant that I did not know what to do before thanking my friends. I know I can start anywhere, but I was using the first ‘co-ord’ to confirm the rightness of my tree. this matters little now, for two reasons– I have confirmed it elsewise, and fancy my mentioning W!
the momos are conspiring to get me started on this puzzle. but cuuuursesss i have to go now. I think I’ll get started later, though I suspect I’ll take ages unless there’s something I’m missing. guccha!
2008-02-19 at 13:02
Kawaiirrhea
I’m not sure what you’re talking about with regard to your “tree”, but if you’ve got it, good luck! I think the actual filling in of the grid is the most fun part of this puzzle.
2008-02-19 at 19:01
maiZe
I’m so almost done with all the titles (that’s assuming I’ve correctly figured out how to get the titles… which I think I have, but we’ll see). I’m stuck on 2 of them for some reason… The 3rd one in the 3rd line and the 1st one in the last line.
I can’t wait to start trying to figure out this grid… XD I love puzzles! You totally win for making this! :D
2008-02-19 at 19:11
Kawaiirrhea
(spoiler-ish)
I think you’ve figured out how to get the titles, since the two you’re stuck on are probably the trickiest ones.
3rd in line 3: Try taking out the decimal point and see if that rings any bells. I thought this use of the number was very creative, and it fits into the general scheme of things if you imagine a decimal there.
1st in line 9: Think of other ways to write numbers besides Arabic numerals.
And I’m glad you’re having fun with this. It was a blast to make, even if it kept me up all night listening to Dschinghis Khan. :-p
2008-02-20 at 11:32
bot
woahh I feel like I’ve just finished a huge boss fight… where the infernal beast keeps changing form!!! Tiring but great fun! I’m quite impressed that I stuckwitit, but I think that’s more thanks to the design than me. Thanks for all the effort!!!
Dschinghis Khan brings good things!
ps T&C bomber isn’t in the official discography either.
2008-02-20 at 12:30
Kawaiirrhea
Yay, good for you! Are you filling in the grid now, or are you done with the whole thing? :)
With regard to T&C Bomber … uh … so I see. Their page is hidden as well: http://www.helloproject.com/disco/09/index.html
2008-02-20 at 13:33
maiZe
I went a little crazy last night when I finally got all of the titles (or so I thought) and then realized that I was one ! short…. So I had to go searching again, trying to figure out where I went wrong. >_< But I figured it out! :D (I also noticed the T&C bomber thing as I was trying to find my extra ! - I did everything through wiki.theppn, but I with my punctuation issue, I wanted to double check with the official info).
Also, the 2 previous titles I had problems with… I think I just went a little blind for a while, ’cause I ended up finding them when I got home and was a little more careful with my search.
I’m impatient to start filling in my grid (I’ve got a pretty good idea on what to do) but I have to wait until I get home… But I’ve got a b-ball game to go to after work, so that’s gonna delay my puzzle time! T_T
2008-02-20 at 19:47
Kawaiirrhea
I just re-test-solved this puzzle again. Talk about addictive. o_o
2008-02-21 at 09:53
Anonymous
I’m done with the whole thing, i think. that is, i’ve come to a “final answer, which is the title of a Hello! Project recording.” I think I’m a lot more haphazard than maiZe; I started on the grid with all of three titles. imo finding the titles is the most tiring (and least fun, relatively speaking of course) part, so it’s like eating the peas first, maiZe! (unless you really really like peas)
I can imagine it’s terribly easy to mess up some part of the puzzle-making. There’re so many ways to go wrong, and no margin for error, especially with the whole ‘butterfly effect’ design. so kudos again! hey brother! nice brother! go brother! (or sister)
sheesh why do all my paragraphs end with qualifications for sweeping statements? (except this one… doh!….wait… doh!… wait… etc)
2008-02-21 at 09:57
bot
that was me again. sorry about overpopulating the comments section.
2008-02-21 at 10:05
maiZe
I filled the grid out in one shot. :) (Though, I did get stuck at one point ’cause I had the wrong title, so I had to stop from that direction and fill in the grid from the back end until I was left with just enough space for my final title. I was hitting myself over the head when I saw my error on that title. >_<)
I’m working on figuring out the final answer. Will work on that when I get home tonight. :D
bot: LOL. :) Your comment cracked me up, simply because I LOVE PEAS!!! I kid you not… They’re one of my absolute favourite veggies. XD
Quoting bot: “sorry about overpopulating the comments section.”
- You and me both. XD
2008-02-21 at 10:11
Kawaiirrhea
Yay, congrats to you both, and good luck on the final stage, maiZe! I’ll post solutions soon. And sorry to put you through the title-finding ordeal. :( My original idea was to just list the titles and to have the solver figure out the order to fill them in, but decided that was too complicated.
I did mess up a few times, once drastically. *slaps self for forgetting to check the parity of the grid to see if it was actually solvable* Eh.
I’ll put up more puzzles sometime. They’ll probably be very different from this one.
And I love peas too.
2008-02-21 at 10:13
Kawaiirrhea
The way I filled in the grid while test-solving actually had six disconnected parts at one point. :-p
2008-02-21 at 23:05
maiZe
I’m done! (I think… I seem to have 2 characters in my final answer that don’t really fit anywhere… >___<
2008-02-21 at 23:23
Kawaiirrhea
You mean characters that don’t seem to fit into the way the final answer is represented? Did you get the title of an H!P recording? If so, congrats! I may have made an error with the final part. I checked it once, but there might still be something. Solutions will be up this weekend or so. :)
2008-02-21 at 23:28
maiZe
Hey! wordpress ate my comment!! It must be really hungry, ’cause I typed up a lot… >_<
So, what I said (from what I can remember - now it just won’t sound as good as my original comment, at least to me):
I’m done! (I think… I seem to have 2 characters in my final answer that don’t really fit anywhere… But I think I have the answer) I ended up doing most of this in excel - it’s all pretty and colour coded. :D
I was having the hardest time with the final answer. I tried a bunch of different ways of looking at things and nothing was making sense. As I’m looking at one of my spreadsheets, my brother walks into my room and is like “Ooh… [final answer]“. I’m like…. o_O … :O “How in the world did you see that?!? I’ve been looking at this stupid screen forever!!” So, I got the answer, but my bro technically found it. He didn’t even know that there was an H!P release by that name. Oi…. I think that if I just stepped away from the puzzle for a little while, I would have seen it too, but I had gotten into the “look at everything from every possible angle, thus making everything more complicated” mode.
Anyway, I have to echo bot and say thanks so much for making such a wonderful puzzle! I love procrastination tools, particularly ones that make you think, rather than just turning the mind to mush. XD This was so much fun (though at times aggravating… but that’s just ’cause you know that there’s something you’re missing, which once you find, you’ll hit yourself over the head for missing it in the first place… Like me and the final answer). So THANKS! and I can’t wait to see what other puzzles you release! (Backing up this comment in case it gets eaten again… I feel like I’m dealing with livejournal, which has eaten entire entries of mine before).
I type/ramble too much. Sorry. XD
2008-02-21 at 23:36
maiZe
I’m flooding your comments… I apologize.. but after your comment, I checked mine again, and I saw my screw up… I was able to get those 2 characters to fit. My issue was I started getting into technicalities with those characters, but my brother and I argued it out, and he says its fine… So YAY! :D
2008-02-22 at 16:00
Kawaiirrhea
I’m glad you enjoyed it; it was loads of fun to make. :-D
WordPress seems to be having issues, as some comments have been going to my first post instead of where they belong if you visit a page while I have it open for editing. Hopefully that’ll get sorted out.
Congrats to your brother too!